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Friday, January 6, 2012

Groundhog Day - How long was the Time Loop?

Groundhog Day
How long was the Time Loop?



As I sit and look for something to watch, Groundhog Day pops up. A fun, fantastic film that everyone enjoys. When others discuss time travel in relation to Back to the Future, the time parodox discussion often passes over Groundhog Day...not any more.


A cult classic comedy/drama starring former Saturday Night Live Alumi, comedic icon Bill Murray. In the film, Murray plays Phil Connor's, a disgruntled weatherman sent to Puxatony, PA to cover the Groundhog Day festivities. Unfortunately, Phil is forced to relive the same day, getting stuck in a time loop.....but for exactly how long?


First, let's get to know the term Time Loop - Used mostly as a plot device in Science Fiction (Doctor Who and Tru Calling used Time Loops), creating a reoccurence/restart in time, after a few hours or maybe a day (as used in Groundhog Day) with most losing memory of what happened. In Groundhog Day, everyone surrounding Phil Connor's had no retention of the previous day's events. This allowed him to basically have free reign....learning skills, re-watching events and even cheating death.



BING!!!

Director Harold Ramis, on the Dvd commentary, estimated the time loop as "about 10 years", then after an article on Wolf Gnards added to the discussion, Ramis came back with a follow up statement of 8 Years, 8 Months and 16 Days. I should also add, the number 10,000 years has been thrown around by Ramis also, but that seems too farfetched. Can I accept that amount? Is it possible Phil Connor's could learn to play the piano, become a master ice sculptor and become fluent in French in just over 8 years?..........Let's look.


Rules I am using for calculation - Once a skill is learned, in order to maintain that skill, Phil would have to work approx 1 hour per day to maintain said skill. While he wakes up everyday, everything is restarted, his past day experience is NOT. He would still recollect everything from the prior day (not like 50 First Dates). If Phil makes a passing comment about something, I will take his comment into account. There will be plenty of days where I think his focus was geared to one particular accomplishment.  


In the film itself, there are 36-38 days depicted, depending if some of the same events occured on the same day. A slap could have occured the same day as a Ned Ryerson interaction happened. It's not like he restart as soon as his day went array, he was forced to live the day, with each day starting at 6am. +38 days

Let's look at his events:

Suicide - Phil attempted suicide at least 7 times, as he was quoted "I have been stabbed, shot, poisoned, frozen, hung, electrocuted, and burned." So who know's how much more creative Phil was during his darkest days. I'm going to round up to 10 days of Suicide. +10 days


Piano Playing Expert - It shows Phil going for Piano lessons, paying for time, but the exact amount of time was never determined. Let's say Phil had 0 piano experience, which seems logical. After doing some research, piano playing is based on Grades (Levels). The rough guess is to play Beethoven from scratch would be roughly 7-10 years. Let's figure Phil played 4-5 hours per day to learn (it would be based around how much money the instructor required to put in a full day of lessons), so I feel comfortable with roughly guessing with Phil became a master player in 5 years. Now, this assumption is that Phil learned more than just one song, he strived to achieve. - +5 years



Throwing Playing Cards Expert - Phil makes a passing comment to Rita, that to become an expert at throwing playing cards into a hat would take - “Six months. Four to five hours a day, and you’d be an expert.” So, I'm assuming that this was the highlight of Phils day, not worrying about much else. I might even say this occured during the "Connor Dark Days" of self loathing and depression. -  +6 months


Ice Sculpting - This one is tricky. To become an expert in anything is tough, to Ice Sculpt is even harder. The guess would be 10,000 hours, based on experts recolection of time spent to master the art. So, let's say Phil was able to deal with the cold, and he spent 3 hours per day learning his new found art, and he went to learn everyday, in a row, with no skipping, it would account for 3,333 days in a row. So, let's call a safe number at 9 years, 6 months to round off the days. -
+9 years & 6 months


Speaking Fluent French - Connor's also in the film has learned fluent French. As seen, he recites a French poem flawlessly and Ramis has also said that Connor's learned the language. I took 2 years of Spanish for 2o minutes a day, 5 days a week, for 2 years and couldn't say shit in Spanish...so let'e look at how long Phil would need to become fluent. Ok, thanks to google...I found out the following :


The time it takes to become fluent depends on several things, the most important of which is whether you are living in a francophone country. If you live someplace like France or Québec for a year, you will most likely be fluent towards the end of that. If you're not living in a francophone country, it can take 5 to 10 years, or more.
The other factors are


1.Your age - the younger you are when you start, the better


2.Your aptitude for language - some people are just better at language than others


3.The effort you put into learning - if you practice every day you'll learn and remember a lot more than someone who goes to class once a week but never practices outside of class

I'm also going to assume..haha...that Puxatony is NOT Francophone country..so we will go with the latter. I am sticking with approx 8 years. Again, I'm basing this on Phil only dedicating a few hours per day, possibly working on other skills or finding a new way to impress Rita. +8 years


Now, there will be many additional days that could go unaccounted, how many days does he care for the Homeless man? He does refer to him as Dad, so was a bond made over time? I will say yes, we see at least 3 instances of them spending seperate occasions together. I would say Phil spent at least 14 days working with the old man, bonding and trying to change the eventual outcome of death, which was unavoidable.
+14 days


The Movie Theater quote - Phil is seen dressed up, in what I think is a Spagetti Western outfit with a French Maid, where he see's Nancy, at the Alpine Theater to see Heidi 2 where he says "I've seen this 100's of times". Hundreds of times? Ok, so, Phil probably spent 200 days, my guess, at the movies. It would be something I would look into, if I were stuck.
+200 days



The Armored Car Robbery - Phil, who has every observation down, during this segment, has obviously spent many, many hours planning this heist. From the dog barking, the car passing, the roll of quarters to Felix dropping the coins...it's all there. How many days would it take to observe this? I even asked my Wife, just to get an outsiders opinion. She says "At least 30 days", this is picking one event in your day, learning the next 3 minutes of occurances where many factors fall into play. I will go one step further and add an additonal 15 days, bring the total to 45 days to pull off a flawless bank robbery. + 45 days


Lost time - Obviously, we have lost time that go unaccounted for, times where Phil was depressed and never left his bed, I'm sure Phil spent countless hours building a database of Rita's like's and dislikes. We also learn that Phil learn's the Heimlich maneuver, he learned the medicine including to be a Chiropractor. Connor's also built a repertoire with everyone in town, that no doubt, resulted in countless hours of research plus saving the falling child from the tree, "I save you everyday and never get a thank you". Granted, this is just an overview of the time spent in the time loop...with many variables. I feel this was an additonal 3 years.
+ 3 Years


My Final Estimation - 26 years & 308 days
Thats - 9,798 days
Or - 235,152 hours

This is just a simple, non mathmatical method for a geek to enjoy Groundhog Day a little more. Hopefully, you enjoy this day and remember "I sure as heckfire remember you"...I love Ned Ryerson!


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Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Life Aquatic….ahhhh zee fishes are so, fish like - Movie Review

Life Aquatic….ahhhh zee fishes are so, fish like.




Do you remember sitting in Science class or even watching the local Public Television Stations as they showed The silent World, Cries for the Deep, Cousteau’s Odysse Series? No? You don’t? Am I the only one? I probably am, but at least I know that you have heard the world famous Jacques Cousteau, the master of the sea, his only rival being that of King Neptune himself. He revolutionized the world of the ocean as we know it and see it to this day. He co-developed the aqua-lung for scuba, and being a scuba diver myself I am eternally grateful to him for the possibilities to explore the undersea world. His ship the Calypso is almost as famous if not as famous as the Flying Dutchman or the Nautilus. He has written, directed and produced numerous movies, books and TV shows all on the world of the water and it’s magnificent undersea ways.


The movie Life Aquatic has nothing to do with any serious undersea work what so ever, it is however a pretty freakin funny comedy. The movies is centered around a man named Steve Zissou, who is the Cousteau of this film, as he travels the world looking for a possibly mythological shark, the jaguar shark who had killed his partner, almost Captain Ahab hunting down his white whale. The many exploits they have while hunting down the shark are absolutely hilarious, with pirates and the braking in of research facility to steal the good equipment and an espresso machine is priceless.




As he sails the sea on his boat the Balafonte he has one thing on his mind, the complete destruction of the jaguar shark, while filming his exploits all at the same time. Oh and did I mention that the investors don’t want the shark dead and his supposed son is trying to build a non-existent relationship all the while the British reporter is drinking and smoking away while being 5 months pregnant.


As well as all the misadventures he has his un-paid interns, his bonds stooge and estranged wife, who is the only one who can remember the Latin names of the fishes for the movie, to contend with on a daily basis. Oh and he has an absolute and fixation for dynamite and willing to do anything to get that great shot for his documentary.
It gives a comedic styling’s to Cousteau and what he has put out over the years. The cast is top notch and without a doubt some of the greatest straight faced comedians, they include such stars as Bill Murray, Jeff Goldblum, Owen Wilson and Willem Dafoe. It is a very intelligent comedy, in the aspect that it’s not direct in your face jokes, but rather a simple and even toned style.


I had seen this film in the video stores years ago and I thought to myself that it really wasn’t anything all that great and I figured it would be a bore fest. However I sat down and watched it one day, mainly because there was nothing better on TV and I didn’t feel like playing the PS3. I started to watch it and within the first 5 minutes I was hooked and I have to watch it all, even going as far as to cancel a physical therapy session just to finish the movie. Is that a sad thing for me to do….to me no, to you maybe, but it just shows how great a movie it is, so check it out.


Be safe and who lives in a pineapple under the sea???
John Cannon

Monday, August 9, 2010

Who ya gonna call…when the regulars are holdouts???

Who ya gonna call…when the regulars are holdouts.




If there’s something strange…in your neighborhood…who ya gonna call??? GHOSTBUSTERS!!! Well you would, if Bill Murray wasn’t acting like a total d-bag and realized that he is a comic genius and without him the Ghostbusters wouldn’t be the same. A man who spent his life entertaining the masses with such pieces as Stripes, Life Aquatic, Caddy Shack, Meatballs, Groundhog Day, Scrooged & of course Ghostbusters, you would think he would want to reprise a famous character role. However that doesn’t seem possible as he has gone off the deep, fired his agent & manager and now has a 1-800 number in order to reach him then he barely checks the voicemail system anyways. Of course you then have Dan Aykroyd who has gone “bye bye” in his mind and I think honestly believes that he is a Ghostbuster in real life. So with those 2 major Ghostbusters sidelined because they are insane and can’t come to an agreement for a 3rd film a Mr. Hank Braxton decided to make his own fan film entitled Return of the Ghostbusters.

The synopsis is as such:
The mile high city is rocked when an ancient Egyptian menace comes to town, and the Denver Ghostbusters must return to save the universe once more.  In this sequel to the internet cult hit Freddy VS Ghostbusters, the boys in gray find themselves up to their eyeballs in spooks, as a greater threat looms on the horizon...



I have to admit I didn’t think too much of it when I first heard about it, I was never in love with fan films and had never really seen one that peaked my interest. So I as much as I was not looking forward to it I was such a fan of Ghostbusters I figured I would watch it. Heck if you said the Ghostbusters were in the new Santa Conquers the Martians I would suck and watch that film again…not willingly, but I would.

As I began to watch the film I fell in love instantly, the music the film quality, the editing and the special effects were absolutely fantastic. I sat there thinking to myself “Why isn’t this the next one in the film series, seriously???” The whole thing was crafted so perfectly and it made me a fan of Ghostbusters once again. Despite the real Ghostbusters actors like Murry and Aykroyd the people of this fan film took the dropped ball and ran with it. They didn’t try to be exact carbon copies of the iconic Ghostbuster characters we all know and love, they did their own thing and it worked perfectly.

This movie was put out in 2007 and according to their website took a little over 2 years to complete and the film was made up of volunteers doing the acting, special effects and overall filming.  Now that is true love for what you are doing and trying to do as a fan. To spend 2 years creating a fan film based upon an icon film is true and pure dedication at its highest level.



Now when they finally get off their butts and decide to do the 3rd Ghostbusters my vote is for them to bring the people in who made Return of the Ghostbusters because they won’t phone it in. They will take it seriously and put forth the effort the original cast did in the very first Ghostbusters.

I highly recommend seeing this fan film if you haven’t yet, because if you are a fan or former fan of the franchise please check this movie out and support fan films.

Be safe and make sure your proton pack is charged,
John Cannon


Check out their website: www.returnoftheghostbusters.com